Re: Check-in

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi, TL;DR: The other DebOps Developer here. SaltStack at work for SUSE SLES systems. DebOps with Ansible for my private self hosting. I am not leaving DebOps and therefore also not Ansible for the foreseeable future so you will have to stick with me :) I don’t regret the learning curve and the commitment to excellence of DebOps when I joined early 2015. I at first answered this here but I guess it is better to move it out into an issue to not make this email even longer. Tracked in: https://github.com/debops/debops/issues/1415 Agreed. And let me use that opportunity to thank mainly Maciej for his never ending great work on DebOps! Not to forget maintaining it which is not to underestimate work that hardly anybody thanks one for. Thank you! if you were to cease spending time on DebOps due to other priorities or unforeseen circumstances? That would mean one DebOps Developer less. But on the good side, I don’t hold any keys/accesses exclusively that are needed to continue DebOps. But moving forward, there should be more support for Macjei here. Not so much currently now that all my work on DebOps is done in my spare time, and I am thankful for that. I recently turned off email notifications for GitHub activity which helped me greatly stay focused. Now I have dedicated (spare) time where I work on my off-work projects. I try to maintain a few DebOps roles that I really care about. They are mostly the security, crypto, self-hosting kind of roles like debops.cryptsetup and debops.etesync for example. Also, I see myself as an independent reviewer of all of the core code changes and a lot of roles that enter master, for years. And there is cryptographic proof of it. It is fine. But I cannot take much more responsibility right now due to other projects I maintain also, other side projects and so on. Something which would cause me stress is being in real-time chat all the time like IRC which is why I much prefer structured hands-on discussion in issues and PR. So you don’t see me in IRC. Sorry for that. Impressive setup at work, Imre! Also that you can work mostly with FOSS. Writing proper DebOps roles takes time as we have high standards and long documentation detailing it so I think just put the unfinished roles somewhere and link them in the issue tracker or as PR. This at least prevents someone else needing such a role from writing it from scratch and instead improving the existing role bringing it a bit closer to being DebOps ready. Also, one thing I would propose is more hands-on code reviews. Instead of commenting "this thing should be changed", maybe the reviewer can just fix it themselves if there is no need for discussion (typos or the like) or even propose changes that need discussions. I hope the learning effect is the same. If contributors try to exploit this we could stop it on case-by-case basis. I often do this in the form of checking out a PR hands-on, working on it and opening a PR against the fork. I do this in the hope of increasing productivity for everyone involved. I am also not really eager to take the time for the tax/legal stuff right now. But I also understand that something like this could help the project move forward. I still want DebOps t-shirts :) Ref: https://github.com/debops/docs/issues/221 But I much rather work on technical stuff than do marketing/design. I have the hope that people who know what they want will find DebOps on their own. I guess that is how I got involved. But I know of course that this is wishful thinking. Very true :) 2020-07-15T18:00Z works for me and I will try to make it. I would also propose Jitsi. - -- Live long and prosper Robin `ypid` Schneider -- https://me.ypid.de/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE7eE3HRuH0o2l6AUVhv2YC78aQPgFAl8HBs4ACgkQhv2YC78a QPgumhAAsw3AtzVD93K17JM1QzaTVHMN4HHR7aknTr7Q8NWexHiUDgxa0gYtNOcF a/97A76x/6IFPfgJ38JnRApuBdcnPCMwjkYIC164+PIBFahhLILbTBglJ7IkMg2/ WsC9RRMKbS3r1CkIeA/B8uC+Mc0MonFzGOP5eTVCcQN7N/EQjzGkeR3DPabWLonL L/s903zdt3YUoY41Kt3UERC6DP/ZYQywTpkGF4jPkNNKGKf4o+TXB5DB8FJGJnBN d00xo7eDuhHk50tMrpZyTkG2bT4LqDJglFzO5zFBph2diZfULW9XkZucbilQpYcO j9vT+YFjw29ia1u+Buvti/p/4ki4peBJxcHgVjnSWYtMFc1FfTbZaJ+Nf1CBO61Q rKNiBwaZC+ABT8TeuqbG209rroZ/iUNDXeI//jVPdvkLyMGQJ9eUHTszUZRxpL2k +aBVHqLQ6e2gHV92GqivXaT6Mibxwejow14TOIZXRoK9hki9shZ0MpAecDsAk6pf AOJCl/n5uQ34QafwJpRvtlXJja7tnZpknhm1j3MmJr/SsT592u6F37SYBS70zy1E m3N+s3ybDPrm7qtN5Vvebev8d6t6wZnZfcNt2uTZSVD/lPM1N29jXZLfqnWuOphw XoxV4N/6h5GlVqxhW0DJk9hKCZ/xWlZRv2PV+pOOR415yb5xrJY= =Fo1O -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----