7:45 p.m.
Hej,
maybe some remember me, probably most don't =D.
I was using debops pretty intensively, and contributed whenever I
could. According to my local clone of debops last commit I used
was:
commit 3ddd6a9bcafda2bbf20723bbb3d078e05505a8ad
Between switching to using mostly a form of BSD and using a
different provisioning system that allowed me to iterate faster
than ansible (albeit with its own limitations, like... the most
obvious one: people know ansible and not the other thing), and
other things, I've only been recommending debops to people and not
actually using it.
So, that was the why and how; and here is what I'm actually
asking:
other than considering myself a totally new user to debops, are
there any shortcuts / warnings / heads-up, the community could
give me, as a person that used to know debops pretty well back in
the day?
That'd be the user perspective; the dev perspective would be
similar, except I'd ideally like to toy with using debops with the
BSDs, but that'd be posterior :-), again just some general
pointers that could save me some time would be greatly
appreciated.
Cheers, and congratulations for keeping things up!
--
Evilham
4:37 p.m.
Hej!
On dc., oct. 29 2025, Imre Jonk wrote:
On 10/28/25 19:45, Evilham wrote:
> Hej,
> maybe some remember me, probably most don't =D.
> I was using debops pretty intensively, and contributed whenever
> I could.
> According to my local clone of debops last commit I used was:
> commit 3ddd6a9bcafda2bbf20723bbb3d078e05505a8ad
October 2023, not too long ago ;)
And yes, I remember your nickname. But I did forget that I am
still subscribed
to this mailing list. It's not that active anymore, I think most
of the
discussions regarding DebOps can be found in the GitHub project.
I also remember your contributions <3
My (professional) use of DebOps as well as contributions ran
from april 2019
until september 2022, when I changed jobs. I've been working on
Dutch critical
infrastructure for the last couple of years: the .nl TLD and now
the IT systems
behind the Dutch railways, and Debian and DebOps are not really
used there. I'm
still working with Ansible and Linux though, as well as other
free and open
source software, but I'm not contributing back as much as I used
to. I've just
found different ways to contribute to society.
Those sound like fun, actually positive for society, jobs; kudos!
As a relevant side-question:
- did using and contributing to DebOps affect how you use Ansible
at work, on environments that are not using it? if so, is there
anything specific you'd like to share?
I know for me most of what's listed here:
https://docs.debops.org/en/stable-3.2/user-guide/debops-for-ansible.html
has been huge and has had a big effect in structuring projects,
and in general how I address managing infrastructure.
You can easily see what parts of DebOps I was most interested in
back then:
https://github.com/debops/debops/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aimrejonk+is%3Ac...
> Between switching to using mostly a form of BSD and using a
> different
> provisioning system that allowed me to iterate faster than
> ansible (albeit
> with its own limitations, like... the most obvious one: people
> know ansible
> and not the other thing), and other things, I've only been
> recommending debops
> to people and not actually using it.
> So, that was the why and how; and here is what I'm actually
> asking:
> other than considering myself a totally new user to debops, are
> there any
> shortcuts / warnings / heads-up, the community could give me,
> as a person that
> used to know debops pretty well back in the day?
I don't think I'm the most qualified person to help you out
here, but some
general advice: check the changelog [1] to get an overview of
what has happened
in the codebase lately, and also the upgrade notes [2] if you're
attempting to
dust off an old DebOps project. And of course, there is the
getting started
guide [3] for if you're starting over. Invoke your
troubleshooting skills if
things don't work out the way you expect, be eager to learn and
discover, and
ask for help (on this list, for example) if you get stuck. Good
luck!
[1] https://docs.debops.org/en/master/news/changelog.html
[2] https://docs.debops.org/en/master/news/upgrades.html
[3]
https://docs.debops.org/en/master/introduction/getting-started.html
=D thanks! These are more than fine, I was already OK with doing
this the long way, but figured saying hi and asking for a shortcut
was worth trying!
> That'd be the user perspective; the dev perspective would be
> similar, except
> I'd ideally like to toy with using debops with the BSDs, but
> that'd be
> posterior :-), again just some general pointers that could save
> me some time
> would be greatly appreciated.
The issue list may give you an idea of things that can be worked
on in DebOps:
https://github.com/debops/debops/issues
I think bugfixes for things that broke in Debian 13 and maybe
application
upgrades (lots of testing!) will be appreciated, but you'll have
to ask @drybjed
> Cheers, and congratulations for keeping things up!
Cheers, and mad kudos to Maciej for keeping the show running all
this time! I'd
be interested in his perspective on DebOps nowadays. I know at
one point he
accepted a job offer at a company that was using DebOps, pretty
cool :)
It's always nice to see people are still around and doing awesome
things <3
--
Evilham
7:49 p.m.
On 10/28/25 19:45, Evilham wrote:
Hej,
maybe some remember me, probably most don't =D.
I was using debops pretty intensively, and contributed whenever I could.
According to my local clone of debops last commit I used was:
commit 3ddd6a9bcafda2bbf20723bbb3d078e05505a8ad
October 2023, not too long ago ;)
And yes, I remember your nickname. But I did forget that I am still
subscribed to this mailing list. It's not that active anymore, I think
most of the discussions regarding DebOps can be found in the GitHub project.
My (professional) use of DebOps as well as contributions ran from april
2019 until september 2022, when I changed jobs. I've been working on
Dutch critical infrastructure for the last couple of years: the .nl TLD
and now the IT systems behind the Dutch railways, and Debian and DebOps
are not really used there. I'm still working with Ansible and Linux
though, as well as other free and open source software, but I'm not
contributing back as much as I used to. I've just found different ways
to contribute to society.
You can easily see what parts of DebOps I was most interested in back
then:
https://github.com/debops/debops/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aimrejonk+is%3Ac...
Between switching to using mostly a form of BSD and using a different
provisioning system that allowed me to iterate faster than ansible
(albeit with its own limitations, like... the most obvious one: people
know ansible and not the other thing), and other things, I've only been
recommending debops to people and not actually using it.
So, that was the why and how; and here is what I'm actually asking:
other than considering myself a totally new user to debops, are there
any shortcuts / warnings / heads-up, the community could give me, as a
person that used to know debops pretty well back in the day?
I don't think I'm the most qualified person to help you out here, but
some general advice: check the changelog [1] to get an overview of what
has happened in the codebase lately, and also the upgrade notes [2] if
you're attempting to dust off an old DebOps project. And of course,
there is the getting started guide [3] for if you're starting over.
Invoke your troubleshooting skills if things don't work out the way you
expect, be eager to learn and discover, and ask for help (on this list,
for example) if you get stuck. Good luck!
[1] https://docs.debops.org/en/master/news/changelog.html
[2] https://docs.debops.org/en/master/news/upgrades.html
[3] https://docs.debops.org/en/master/introduction/getting-started.html
That'd be the user perspective; the dev perspective would be
similar,
except I'd ideally like to toy with using debops with the BSDs, but
that'd be posterior :-), again just some general pointers that could
save me some time would be greatly appreciated.
The issue list may give you an idea of things that can be worked on in
DebOps: https://github.com/debops/debops/issues
I think bugfixes for things that broke in Debian 13 and maybe
application upgrades (lots of testing!) will be appreciated, but you'll
have to ask @drybjed
Cheers, and congratulations for keeping things up!
Cheers, and mad kudos to Maciej for keeping the show running all this
time! I'd be interested in his perspective on DebOps nowadays. I know at
one point he accepted a job offer at a company that was using DebOps,
pretty cool :)
--Imre
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